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QUESTION: If you
get a minute can you send me details on how to build a wood
fence like you have done at your training center?
I've finished clearing my wooded area for a new arena. I have a 100' x 200' area cleared and finally I've dug up all the stumps. I was planning on putting up a wood fence around this for an arena. I remember you said you used "white oak?" Where do you get that? I also remember you saying that you made your arena fence height 4' 6" exactly? Why is that? Why not 5 feet? I think I need to put something up where I won't be concerned about my horse jumping it. I've planned my fence on some graph paper. I was originally thinking 8 foot spacing between posts and 3 rails. What size post do you recommend and how far apart? Did you concrete the posts in the ground? What size board panels did you use (2 x 8's???). Did you nail them up or bolt them together? Thanks. But just my two cents worth before you read Daryl's response here...Yes, 5 feet high fencing around your arena is definitely better/more ideal than the 4''7" we did there, and we only did that because: we had one long side that had existing posts already that we felt we could still use (once straightened by tractor) so that meant: less post drilling (the hardest part of wood fence building!)! And among those existing posts, the tallest one was about 4'7", so that became our targeted height to remain even all around. But if you're starting from scratch building an arena fence, go for 5 feet, but that means: you probably need to have a 4-board fence, not 3, or you'll have too large gaps between boards that horses can put their heads between, which you want to avoid. But let me allow Daryl to give you better instructions/details on all that. He's the expert there! Below is Daryl's "Wood Fence Building 101" step-by-step instructions on how we built our wood fences here at our training center; think of it as "what we learned from the school of hard knocks" -- and actually got pretty good at it, in the end! Daryl Scott's Step-by-Step How to Build Wood Fencing at Your Horse Farm Regarding your fence questions...I don't think that there is any one perfect answer, but after working a bit with a very experienced fence builder to get the hang of it, we then evolved a system that seems to have worked well for us here at the Virginia Natural Horsemanship Training Center (and we've now put up about 2 miles of fence board!). Here is what we did and what we learned along the way: Fence Boards: White Oak: may be a bit harder to find, but is much more resistant to rot, and is a very hard wood that lasts a long time without splintering, cracking, etc. We used 12-foot long boards that are 6 inches wide by 1 inch thick. They can sometimes be found in 16 foot lengths, but this is much more expensive per board foot, much more difficult to handle, and I think requires the posts to be spaced too widely apart to be strong enough for horse fencing (especially around the arena). Call some of the lumber mills around and ask if they have the white oak fence boards. I had to call dozens of them but finally found a place a couple of hours away that cut white oak every so often and would deliver. Incidentally when you order the boards, you will order in "board feet." A bundle of 1000 board feet will run you about $550-$600 (not including any delivery charges). The important thing to know is that "board feet" are measures of 12 inches wide (i.e. a square foot) -- so, since these boards are 6 inches wide, that means that there are actually about 2000 LINEAR FEET of boards in 1000 board feet of 6-inch fence boards. Fence Posts: treated 7-foot posts, 4-5 inches in diameter. This allows about 2 to 2 1/2 feet into the ground with plenty left above ground. If you want a bit taller above ground, you can also get these in 7 1/2 foot lengths, as well. Southern States, Tractor Supply, and even Lowes/Home Depot and many lumber yards have these and will deliver. Nails: galvanized 3 1/2-inch ring shank nails. This length allows plenty of bite through the board and into the post. We used a Paslode Cordless Nail Gun (uses gas canisters + rechargeable battery power) to drive these -- although, you often still need to hand-hammer the last inch or so. Two nails per board per post works fine. Post Holes: You really need a good auger, or "post hole digger" to dig these post holes. We used a 6-inch (wide) auger mounted on the PTO on the back of our tractor. If you are only fencing the arena area, you may not need to buy this (a bit pricey), but you will definitely want to rent one. I would not advise that "two-man" hand held type auger, since auguring can get pretty exciting when you hit a rock or stump -- definitely better mounted on a stable tractor! Even then be careful with this thing -- we've heard some pretty nasty stories about people getting hurt with them! Digging holes this way is a two person job -- one to drive the tractor, position the auger, engage the auger, lower the auger and control the drilling speed, and the other to stand behind the auger and guide it with the pole that extends off the top of the auger. For really hard ground, you may need to really push down on the pole, and it may bend. We found that the "tamper" (described below) can also be inserted at the top of the auger to give you a longer/stronger pole for pushing down the auger bit when needed. Speaking of augers, depending on how many holes you drill and what you happen to hit (rocks!), there are two replaceable parts that can wear down quickly and make the going tougher as they get dull: 1) the "cutting blades" which are the two little blades bolted to the bottom of the auger, and 2) the auger tip, which is the corkscrew-looking thing at the tip. We found out the hard way that it is much easier to replace these occasionally to make drilling much easier. Post Spacing: you'll want to place the posts on six foot centers, so that one 12-foot board effectively goes across three posts. The "12 foot" boards actually seem to vary from about 12'1" to 12'4", plus as you drill the holes, things may shift a little, so trying to hit 6-foot centers usually works best to make sure that the boards reach with a little to spare. Then, you use a chain saw after nailing the boards in place to trim the ends even with the final post center so that you are ready for the next run of boards. Other misc. equipment that you'll need: Manual post-hole "shovel": This is the old-fashioned manual one that looks like two small shovels bolted together that you'll need to remove loose dirt from the bottom of the hole after using the auger (stuff falls back in as you remove the auger). Tamper: this is the long (about 6-foot) heavy metal pole with a pointed blade on one end and a blunt end on the other. After you drill the hole (about 2 to 2 1/2 feet), clean the hole out with the post-hole shovel and drop in a post; then you need to fill dirt back around the post in the remaining hole area, and pack it down securely all around the base of the post with the blunt end of the tamper. Before doing this, you may want to use a smaller stick (or actually I found an old dressage whip works nicely!) and kind of poke the dirt down around the sides of the post before tamping, since the tamper may not get dirt to pack all the way down to the bottom of the hole if used first (tends to pack around the surface first leaving some air at the bottom of the hole, and therefore leaving the pole a little wobbly). By the way, no cement is needed in the holes for board fencing, and the boards actually serve to "stiffen" the whole fence line as you go. For some "tension" type fencing (high tension flexible vinyl, for example) they do require cement for some posts, to take the stress of stretching the fencing material -- but this is not needed with board fencing. Level: needless to say you need to check the level of each post in two vertical directions to make sure that it is "straight up" before final burying/tamping into place.
We actually found a 2-people approach worked best there for this stage: 1 person levels the pole with a carpenter's level and once leveled, holds it steady in place; 2nd person down on knees, uses the stick to filter dirt down into the cracks and then secures all dirt around the pole, burying it firmly before then tamping it into place with the heavy tamper. This also speeds along the process using 2 people, because once the pole is buried firmly, while the 2nd person then tamps it into place, the 1st person has already moved on to leveling the next pole in line. Hanging the Boards: As for number of boards for fences, we chose throughout our training center the following: Other Odds & Ends: Final Note: There is another method that some people use to set posts, and that is to "drive" the posts. If the ground is soft enough, you may be able to cut a wedge on the end of each post with a chain saw, and then "drive" them into the ground using a front-loader on a tractor to pound them in. Or, you can also drill a smaller post hole (say with a 3-inch wide auger), and likewise drive the posts in the same way with a tractor front-loader. Our ground here in Virginia was much too packed (clay usually) or too rocky just below the surface for this route, so we chose to just drill the larger post hole (with 6-inch wide tractor auger), drop in the post, and tamp the dirt back around it very tightly. After the dirt settles a bit, we've found this to create just as solid a post/fence as the "driving" approach, and it seemed to be the best route for our soil conditions here I hope this "from the trenches" information helps you with your upcoming arena wood fencing project, and any other wood fencing you'd like to do on your horse farm. After laying down over 2 miles of fencing here, all by ourselves -- Sylvia and I at our Virginia Natural Horsemanship Training Center -- we have to say we've gotten pretty good at it, very fast at it, and the fences came out quite solid and, we think, very aesthetically pleasing. Opting not to paint them, but leave them natural cuts down on future farm maintenance (as painted fences have to be repainted every couple of years), and we rather like the natural wood look for our center. Good luck with your project and let us know if we can be of any further help to you there! Daryl Scott C .E.O. Virginia Natural Horsemanship Training Center LLC Blacksburg, Virginia
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